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So now Freddy = DC?

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  • LaakeriLaakeri Member Posts: 835

    Couple days ago I was doing Wraith daily and loaded into Thompsons house where cow tree spawned on shack side so it was 100% loss for me as I play "fair". 2 survivors still dc'ed as I slugged them instead of tunneling and eating their ds so there is no limit to some survivors entitlement.

  • Lost_in_the_FogLost_in_the_Fog Member Posts: 450

    So what I hear you saying is Wraith is the new Freddy? Better NERF HIM NOW!!! Lol

  • EndstilleEndstille Member Posts: 2,246
    edited November 2019

    The problem is that the "punishment" is a joke, it might happen someday somewhere to someone but reality is as soon as some entitled people feel like "this is not fun / i don't bully that person / wait somebody else is having fun aside from me?" they dc, many streamers are fine with it. They preach about yeah i don't encourage but i understand <3

    All just a bunch of entitled snowflakes, in any other game the people playin, the people makin the game would say f* em. When suddenly 1week cooldown would be at stake for not playing, they might actually try to deal with stuff but until that happens and the devs cave into every outcry when it is not about balance and just i am not having fun and the reason for that will always be replaced. You saw it with nurse, balanced around some 0.1% top nurse mains, now step right up spirit pls, while I do agree that to some degree they have flaws and needed work on their addons what behaviour did was handhold people that suck at the game and cry about noed, when in reality noed is such a bad perk that it is not even worth to waste the time on cleansing a dull totem, when killer has it, fine do cleanse it after activation otherwise do objectives.

    As long as bhvr is okay with "$§!* that i dc" and cry on forums cause no fun, no counterplay and they do not bother to punish these people nothing is being balanced. You can end trials so fast in this game that the killer skill is almost completely irrelevant.

    Seems like i lost the bet with my friends, i wondered what people gonna cry about after spirit, i had billy in mind but seems like it will be freddy afterwards. Maybe at some point we balance the game but not as long as this is tolerated.

  • GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 2,211

    Honestly, I disliking facing both these Killers (I loathe the Wraith with an explainable and confusing amount of ire) and wouldn't mind them being nerfed. But that is just me being selfish and know Wraith is actually fine.

    Freddy on PS4 feels like ACTUAL bs half the time though.

  • RansterRanster Member Posts: 7

    I admit legion is a bit weak but I play him often at red ranks with a build I always use, ruin, BB&C, sloppy butcher and thanataphobia, and usually get 3 kills sometimes 4 kills if I feel like slugging. I hate how people say that he's so bad like other killers like plague and pig but i think they're pretty good if you play them properly. In my opinion "weak" killers are just played improperly or the survivors are stronger than anticipated. I don't want to make too much of a discussion since this post is about Freddy, not legion, but I'll tie it in by saying that i get a lot of DCs as legion especially when they see me running iridescent button and recovery add-ons. It's definitely not just Freddy.

  • justarandyjustarandy Member Posts: 1,711

    The only time I see survivors dc is when it's a forever Freddy build. I don't agree with DCing, however I can absolutly understand why they do this. Forever Freddy is suuuuuper boring and annoying to go against.

  • ZoldyarZoldyar Member Posts: 438
    edited November 2019

    It not as if Freddy is op, but he is boring to play against. Freddy can literally do what every killer does to the point where you asked, what is the point playing?

    He has map pressure by being able to teleport to gens.

    He has snare portals (whatever they are called) to stop pretty much all loops or fast vault (If you are a smart killer).

    He also has dream pallet which becomes very strong during late game where most pallets are gone and you can used that to trick suriviors (granted the killer can't dream snares with this add on).

    He can turn invisible at a certain distance.

    He can slow down gen speed when in just dream world and can use ruin with other perks to slow the game down. So you can understand how boring it is being on a gen doing one thing for over 100 seconds. Granted this is also with an add on.

    When a surivior is in his dream world. The dream portal would usually spawn very far away which makes it a long journey. While in the dream world a lot of perks such as borrowed time becomes useless.

    His lunge attack can be quite ridiculous.

    It isn't as if he needs a nerf but limit the number of powers he has in return of buffing other powers that haven't been removed.

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  • bigbeefynachobigbeefynacho Member Posts: 351

    If he's forever freddy and he downs me, I die in hook. I've got better things to do than hang out in a match for 30 minutes.

  • NobsydeNobsyde Member Posts: 1,283

    Probably you are ironic, but assuming you or someone else think this is true, I'm starting to believe otherwise.

    When asked if Spirit is over performing because of the DCs @Peanits answered that they can filter out DCs. Now the question is: if you already can filter out DC, why is it so common? Why is the threshold for a ban, temporary or permanent, so high?

    My stance is that Devs are afraid to alienate their player base: DbD players DC a lot, if they would start to punish them harshly they fear a massive drop in players, and that's where we are.

    You (Devs) don't want to ban too easily people DCing which may be crashing? That's fair, everyday I get a "Disconnected from Host" at least a couple of times even if I doubt the killer DCed, I wouldn't want him or me to be panned for that, but at least put a 10 minutes timer on joining another game!

    Yeah, it would suck for me to wait when I didn't do anything wrong, if that was to happen, but if this could at least try to discourage those serial DCers you have to do it.


    ..but I fear they won't.

  • RinthespookiRinthespooki Member Posts: 255

    i have a question : Do you guys count any matches where someone dc'd?

    Because the match is more in killer's favor the fewer survivors are in a match thus resulting in more kills. Do you count those killer where the survivor are in disatvantage when someone dc's?

  • NobsydeNobsyde Member Posts: 1,283

    I'm very happy to hear it from you!

    And I apologise if my message seemed to be too confrontational; I sincerely trust that you want to improve the game as a whole, it's just that the DC problem is a very long standing one, people (me at least) get frustrated when they don't see any change.

    The simple acknowledgement of what is wrong and, most importantly, how to act on it is a huge thing :)

  • HamdaNHamdaN Member Posts: 343

    forever freddy is silly. it only requires a few brain cells to play

  • HeroLivesHeroLives Member Posts: 1,710

    On ps4 I don’t really see a lot of DC against freddy since the rework. I used to see a lot more before the rework. Maybe it’s different on pc or Xbox.

  • PeanitsPeanits Dev, Community Manager Posts: 6,750

    All matches are saved. We can choose whether or not we want to filter them out, compare the two, or look for trends between the matches where people disconnected versus those where people didn't (e.g. Is a specific add-on always used?).

    Overall, the matches with disconnects tend to look very similar to matches without (on average).

  • RinthespookiRinthespooki Member Posts: 255

    that is a bad decision to include matches with disconnects because "they look similar" , but then again my feedback is thrown into the bin.

  • PeanitsPeanits Dev, Community Manager Posts: 6,750

    Correct. This is why they can and are filtered out, as mentioned earlier.

  • NobsydeNobsyde Member Posts: 1,283
    edited November 2019

    I think his point is that even if they would consider games with DC in their statistics, the outcome wouldn't change very much, and this is something important to realise for some people who think that their statistics are broken because of DCs.

    Still, they are filtered out so there's not even something to debate on :P.

  • DeKillerKillerDeKillerKiller Member Posts: 547

    Would you rather him be another Low Tier killer?

    Plus it makes sense he could do most of those things. The Dream World is his world. Manipulating the things around him is his thing. Having the ability to go from gen to gen sounds like something he could actually do.

    Can we stop calling killers "boring"? Because I'm bored having to face Exhaustion perks.

  • RinthespookiRinthespooki Member Posts: 255

    "Overall, the matches with disconnects tend to look very similar to matches without (on average)."

    im not buying this line.

  • justarandyjustarandy Member Posts: 1,711

    Cool stuff hopefully the timer is reasonable (annoying enough to dim rage quitters but not to long to punish normal players to long when something happens like network crash, dbd crash, hostage situation forcing to dc or other bugs).

  • NobsydeNobsyde Member Posts: 1,283

    well, think about it: Spirit has a 100% win rate, how would it change if you add DCs in the statistics?

    ?

  • GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 2,211

    I know. But I refuse to say that. If he got buffed I'd see him more and I don't want that because I am terrible at playing against him.

    So, he's fine. ? Okay?

  • MissGamer456MissGamer456 Member Posts: 154
    edited November 2019

    It really depends on the game and killer addons I don’t mind playing against Freddy or Spirit any killer other than pig, I hate pig with a burning passion like I loathe them. I can’t stand looking at them. I LIKE I REALLY HATE PIG! I just always have had bad experiences with pig. I just never enjoyed playing against her. Pig really triggers me and makes my blood boil over. I swear everytime my friend says it’s a pig I’m really to throw something across the room.

    I‘M yeeting myself out the server.

  • AshleyWBAshleyWB Member Posts: 4,062

    Not a fan of new Freddy but disconnecting to get what you want seems to be working. I never disconnect due to the high moral integrity I have but it's obvious there's a problem if people see it as the only way for change.

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