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To All Who Think Spirit is OK in her Current State:

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  • AIG1992AIG1992 Member Posts: 98

    Who's the next killer to cry about after the spirit nerf?

  • TheMajorTheMajor Member Posts: 15

    I don't understand where the hate for Spirit is coming from. She's a strong killer but she was never as strong as The Nurse. The only change I could recommend making to her is making Prayer Beads an Ultra Rare addon. Also that whole analogy of survivors having her power has absolutely no meaning. To make that a fair comparison you'd have to have 4 spirits and 1 survivor. It's just a silly analogy that doesn't make sense.

  • DeKillerKillerDeKillerKiller Member Posts: 547

    Probably because right now she is the only realistically viable killer in the game. And some killers don't want her to be nerfed because well, you know what they'd have to do.

    I am in agreement she needs a sign on when she is phasing, like for example if she's phasing we hear her glass breaking noise that the killer hears. If she isn't then she doesn't make that sound.

  • SaintDenisSlasherSaintDenisSlasher Member Posts: 227

    I don't even own spirit so I've only played against her and while I can see why people want her nerfed, this is a really bad argument because the roles aren't the same. You CAN counterplay spirit because you can hide, how would you counter play an invisible survivor?

    I realize its not the point but i don't get why you would make this whole convoluted hypothetical instead of you know, talking about the reality of the situation lol.

  • CyroCyro Member Posts: 79

    That just brings up a new issue entirely, I'm all for nerfing the Spirit and then bringing up the other killers to a viable level, that's how it should be.

    But right now people don't trust them to balance so they are clinging onto Spirit like the Nurse players clingned onto Nurse.

  • DeKillerKillerDeKillerKiller Member Posts: 547

    Well, you know how BHVR gutted Legion. The community at large right now is very wary in confidence to BHVR's ability to balance the game properly.

  • KenshinKenshin Member Posts: 912

    everything else than looping is too hard for most of the survivors. thinking even hurts them. get a grip already and learn how to play against her, its not that hard.

  • Jaguar3500Jaguar3500 Member Posts: 38

    To everyone who is taking this hypothetical literally, don’t. It was not saying someone was OP, or asking for nerfs or talking about balance. It was showing people why some believe she is unfun to play against. Of course its a botched idea in REALITY, but it only is supposed to make you think about how poeple find going invisible unfun, whether you are a survivor or killer.

    If you can’t grasp that concept and assume that I havent played against her hundreds of times, or played her lots, then I pity you. Don’t balance the game around fun, but dont leave largely unfun areas of the game as is. Killers found instas unfun and they’re gone. Killers found exhaustion perks unfun so they were nerfed. Survivors found Nurse unfun and she was changed and is still a viable killer. THEY WERENT CHANGED BECAUSE THEY WERE UNFUN, THEY WERE CHANGED BECAUSE THEY WERE STRONG WHICH MADE THEM UNFUN.

    Survivors find Spirit unfun not because she is overpowered, but because they want a reliable form of counterplay that gives them a better chance. I, personally find keys to be unfun, like most killers, so wouldn’t mind seeing them get changed along with Spirit. But these are all strong, its not balancing around fun, its balancing strong aspects of this game.

  • AwakeyAwakey Member Posts: 3,079

    That's not how that works.

    The killer IS MEANT to be powerful. Much, much more powerful than a single Survivor. What you described might be applicable of this was a 1 v 1 game. But it's a 1 v 4. Asymmetrical. Therefore, it would make ten times more sense (even though 10 x 0 is still 0 sense) to cut her power into fourths and THEN apply it to a single Survivor.

  • AwakeyAwakey Member Posts: 3,079

    I still find it false, but at this point, it's just a matter of opinion.

  • HoodiedHoodied Member Posts: 10,772

    Actually the ability to go invisible every 15 seconds is something Rainbow 6 siege did, really well actually


    But back on topic, Spirit is balanced you just need to stop relying on loops against her

  • xRemxRem Member Posts: 375

    Insta heals literally took a chase from any killer in the game, that's not fun or balanced, nurse was not charged for "fun" she can still instantly down people, she just cant get around as fast, if they were fixing for "fun" why wasnt spirit changed then? People complained more about her even before the rework.

  • justarandyjustarandy Member Posts: 1,711

    Im a spirit main (well, I actually became a spirit main after they butchered nurse into the trashcan) and I agree with you, the concept of spirit is stupid. I just play her because it's piss easy to stomp survivors, it's very relaxing compared to other killers (even old Nurse was more stressful than spirit.. And Nurse was much stronger than spirit).

  • EndstilleEndstille Member Posts: 2,246

    Yes evidence was posted, maybe you should watch the entire tournament where several spirits were killer and none of them 4ked. Consistent counterplay as requested was posted.

  • immortalls96immortalls96 Member Posts: 4,427

    Hah..with that kind of demeaning logic, what's the point of talking ?

  • premiumRICEpremiumRICE Member Posts: 702

    Shes not particulary broken. Its a strong killer just her addons add a lot of power spike

  • thesuicidefoxthesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,227

    People have given video evidence how to counter Spirit, but the anti-Spirit group always dismisses it as "Spirit bad". We could give you guys the most clear as day evidence ever and you will find a way to discredit it. Yet if we do the same, "survivors bad" then y'all just ignore those comments.

    The anti-Spirit group is an echo chamber. No one is willing to accept any evidence to the contrary because being right is more important than the truth.

  • NinoV1NinoV1 Member Posts: 382

    Idk why everyone is still whining about her, they already said they’re nerfing her

  • LeobolicsLeobolics Member Posts: 28

    Only the ones who know how to play this game knows that the spirit is broken, I saw a YouTuber who used to say that the spirit is OK and don't deserve a nerf because she is viable, the he get into red ranks and start playing against many spirits, and what do you think? He change his mind and recognize that she is broken even more than the nurse pre patch

  • LeobolicsLeobolics Member Posts: 28

    Not all the survivors mains like me always play with a swf, you all killer mains just want an easy win that's it

  • LeobolicsLeobolics Member Posts: 28

    Get first hit with her and you done my friend, literally no way to run, she activate her phase mode and In a few seconds got you

  • NinoV1NinoV1 Member Posts: 382

    Personally I struggle with Freddy more then I do spirit, but I’ve played enough spirit to know how to fool one a few times.

    Either way she’ll be easier to deal with soon.

  • BleedissBleediss Member Posts: 124

    Not every single killer has to be super difficult to play, it's just that when looking at killer variety, for every Nurse and Billy I face, I face 5 Spirits, which gets incredibly boring and frustrating after a while.

    Spirit being harder to play I feel would bring more variety, as Nurse before nerfs and servers was considered the best killer in the game, yet I rarely saw her at red ranks compared to Spirit, probably because she's way harder to play than Spirit so people just turn to the easier killer.

    Also, if you're against a bad killer I guess you can have easy games in a 4 man SWF, but if you face a good killer you can't just turn on autopilot and expect an easy win, you have to actually play well and make the right decisions, which to me is good; a challenge for every player in the match.

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