Why is there no surrender button?!
Cancan71
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I'm sure we all had it happen, where the killer leaves you slugged and BMs you until you bleed out. All that does is waste your time. If all survivors are down they should be allowed to kill themselves so we can move on to the next game (they would all need to agree just in case someone had unbreakable of course). Obviously it would give the killer the points needed and give them any perk tokens like BBQ. You can look at Identity V to see how this works.
And yes this is a rant but still it's a good QoL feature for survivors.
EDIT:
As I see a lot of people being confused I should clarify. I'm asking that only when ALL remaining survivors are downed they get the option to surrender. This wouldn't affect slugging the 3rd survivor to catch the 4th.
EDIT 2:
Also forgot to mention this, but all survivors would have to agree to surrender. If they want to use their anti slugging perks all they have to do is disagree.
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Why wouldnt your team mates come to your downed body and heal you?
How is that relevant? And there are many obvious answers as to why they wouldn't.
You should be able to concede and leave a husk behind. Maybe both killer and remaining survivor should be notified, too.
Would it also pause any hatch opening? Because I could see this being abused to deny a Killer a 4K players think he 'did not deserve'.
And considering I've had MANY someones call me a camper because they unhooked in front of me; they don't really get to decide if I 'deserve' my 4K.
Or the guy who thought it was BM for me hitting him under the hook he unhooked his friend from WHILE he was healing. Like, I stood there and got 100% stalk as Ghostface, and hit the healer NOT the guy he unhooked..but he thought I had to let them heal.
So yeah; I will say no to mechanics that can be abused by the opposing team (be they Killer or Survivor).
I think you misread. What I'm suggesting is when all 4 survivors are either slugged or sacrificed, they can choose to surrender, which will kill all survivors if agreed and give the killer any bloodpoints, emblem points or perk tokens they would have gotten otherwise.
The killer will still get a 4K, I don't see many ways to abuse this unless the killer had a Mori daily and then they downed all survivors before moring them, and even then that can be worked around.
Oh, when all 4. Yeah, if a Killer is not picking people up at that point..
Yeah, I could see a give-up vote for all alive Survivors when they are all Dying or on Hooked
that's like in identity v... who has a smarter system in place anyway. ranking wise and also has a surrender button because it's just tedious to wait out the result if you are dead anyway
Wouldn’t go with the lore, the entity feeds off the survivors hope so surrendering would be off lore
The entity feeds off of all strong emotions. The surrender could be tied to the survivors' despair, and the gloat-y pride of the killer. I think it's a good idea in general, I'm tired of having to toy with poor baby survivors just to pip.
There is. It's called "leave game". You depip for conceding early though.
I think the point of the "§urrender" button would be for them to all leave the game, without any negative side effects.
Works unless killer slugs for hatch. Basically gives the unslugged survivor a free escape.
My suggestion is when the slugged survivor surrenders, they exit the game, but leave a "husk" behind in place of where they were slugged. The slug can move to the next game without having to waste 3 minutes crawling around, and the game can continue for the 4th survivor and the killer.
Then stay until the game is over? Why should there be a way to dodge with no downside?
Because you can't do it unless the other 3 Survivors are also willing to do it.
If EVERYONE has given up to the point that they don't even want to try to win then why NOT let them Surrender?
It's not like this is an unheard of mechanic. Identity V already does this with no problem and other games such as League practically need this feature.
The reason why there is a penalty for dodging in the first place is because it screws over everyone else. However if everyone collectively agrees to do it then no one is being screwed over so it's fine.
Not what I'm suggesting. I'm saying when ALL remaining survivors are downed they can all vote to surrender.
In your scenario the 4th survivor is still up, so they wouldn't be able surrender.
Ah my bad. I agree with this, saves a lot of time for the survivors and the killer alike.
I had this happen last night actually. Toxic doctor almost lost a 3v1, 4th survivor dc'd 30 seconds into match. Slugged me and other teammates until we bled out, after we did 4 gens and took him on long chases. An easy way out option would be nice but only in specific scenarios like this. Otherwise it would just be a free pass to disconnect.
I doubt in most cases the killer would want to just quit. Not fair to them now is it? Just take the L and be onto the next game dude
I agree; if the survivors bust out 4 gens before I even see a single one of them- why have to deal with the both gates being opened; teabagged; having to run back and fourth to shoo them out of the gates or wait out the entire endgame timer.... just let me surrender and find a game that is actually fair.
Taking the L and moving on is the entire point of a Surrender mechanic.
Bleedout is 4 minutes.
No, that's avoiding the L and the penalty for not doing your objective. Take the actual L and move on with your life.
No true scotsmen fallacy
Bleed out timers are 4 minutes
If you can't take losing then this game definitely isn't for you. Try something easier and more mindless
If I'm surrendering then I can obviously take losing.
Bleed out is 4 minutes not 2.
From: Regular Knockout user
I'd like to have a concede button that's available after being slugged for 1 minute. Since there's a good chance no one is coming for you, you can just leave and leave a husk behind so that you don't screw the killer.
If you are surrendering then that means that you admit that you lost. It's just a way to save time.
That's why the EGC was introduced, so the killers wouldn't have to waste time chasing out survivors that are BMing.
It's not admitting defeat if there's no penalty