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Slugging...
Broosmeister
Member Posts: 279
I'm ok with some forms of slugging, but purely a slug build is not how this game was meant to be played. Even though the devs come with stupid perks like infectious fright ( what the hell devs ) when you hook no one untill they are all down. You don't pip, you don't get much bp ( same for survivors ) and it's absolutely boring & unfun to play survivor vs a slugging killer. It takes 0 skill and is just meant to be toxic.
I'm sure some killer mains will turn this around to complain about survivors like they always do, but please someone, give me 1 good argument why only slugging untill everyone is down should be in the game.
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Because killers have as much right to a 4k as you do to an escape.
And because everyone has the right to use whatever mechanics are available to them to achieve their goal.
This is coming from a survivor main.
With that logic, i have every right to speedhack because of my right to escape.
Nope, doesn't follow at all. Slugging is an intended game mechanic. Just because you don't enjoy it doesn't make it any less of a valid tactic, and certainly doesn't put it on par with using cheats or hacks.
Downing survivor is easy and with no skill cap and slugging is meant to be toxic. I agree with you that a slugging build is boring but the game is meant to be a m1 for gens, and sometimes you just fell like thats your only build without a mori that can work. Ah... I am a surv main not a killer
Cheating by using speedhacks =/= slugging
But feel free to use it so you can test if eac works.
Slugging is the same as speed hacking?
I love that survivors aren't okay with doing nothing on the ground, but they also don't do anything on the hook. I think you guys just like to complain.
Or, maybe, it could be its 4v1? If I down someone and the rest of the group is there, you better believe I'm slugging. Why would I waste my time picking you up, and giving the others a free pass? Or when they try to hook rush, yeah, your getting slugged in that scenario too. The killers objective is to down and hook ALL of you as fast as possible using the best strategy for that moment.
For the record, most survivors enjoy being on the hook about as much as they enjoy being on the ground. So as flawed as OP's premise is, what you're suggesting isn't the contradiction you're presenting it as.
just use unbreakable and even if the killer slug you still it takes 4 MINUTES for you to bleed out if you or your teammates failed to do generators in that time then all of you FAIL
Slugging is not the same as speedhacking, of course hacking is worse. I'm just saying that it's generally speaking a cheap and dirty way to play.
There are killer perks made for slugging, and survivor perks made to counter slugging.
The devs clearly accept it and embrace it as a mechanic.
Slugging is killers infinite loop. You survivors go right for those everytime we chase after you because you know we cant catch up and are a exploiting a game mechanic. Except us killers cant do anything but let you go you survivors have adrenaline and unbreakable to counter ours. See how fair that is? (I dont main killer i play both around equally so i think i can say that from both viewpoints)
Like i said, turning it around to complain about survivors, there's always 1 (or more).
You can only get hooked 2 times where you do nothing (you're dead on 3rd hook of course) and that is not a long time. Lying on the ground however takes 4 full minutes before you're dead, sometimes you get to walk a bit longer but the whole game is about lying on the floor and occasionally healing someone who is on the floor. Your comparisment doesn't hold up, just like my comparisment to speed hacking which was a bit rushed lol.
Then you must play with bad teammates. A good team will be able to continually pick each other up to prolong the game. Also... three words for you: Unbreakable and Tenacity.
You can smack someone, he will run away. Of course you slug when someone is in a pallet or people have flashlights, so you think twice about picking someone up. I'm talking about pure sluggers who slug from the first down, untill the last one.
Except hey there buddy, all the infinites are almost gone, all the windows are getting closes. While killers get slug perks, literally.
Also looping, and slugging is completely different.
Yes, picking each other up the whole game untill the bleed out timers go down, what a fantastic gaming experience.
It's fun, I think. A nice change of pace from the usual - slug games are usually easy to win against. Again, Unbreakable exists for a reason. Change your (I'm sure, so very original) build for once.
Okay I play this game quite a bit, and I've never really seen that happening. I think your just upset because you were the 3rd man, got slugged and the killer left for the forth, and you didn't get the hatch. It happens dude. That doesn't mean the game has to change or it's broke. I can understand if it happened once, but your making it seem like it happens every match, and I just don't see it, and I play on ps4 with the most toxic players there is.. I don't mean any disrespect, but cmon dude.
Not every match is going to be fun, just like not every killer slugs just for the sake of a 4k. I think you need to revise your "gaming experience" expectations.
Well, they needed a third Health State for survivors. I'm not sure, but what's the alternative to allowing slugging, other than to force killers to immediately pick up a survivor after downing them? If that's the way it was, it wouldn't be fair because sometimes hooking isn't the best thing to be doing, even after downing someone.
On top of this, without the dying state as it currently is, you would lose a lot of the variety of experiences in matches. COnsider how hard it would be to flashlight/pallet save a downed teammate? A survivor would have to be there at all times for that to work out. You also wouldn't be able to crawl away to the hatch.
On the other hand, they could limit the slugging to 3 people, but what does that mean for the fourth survivor? Maybe the killer downs 3 people who were recently unhooked and he doesn't want to pick anyone up because of Decisive Strike? Does the killer just have to let the 4th survivor run around completing objectives?
The dying state is beneficial for survivors and killers alike.
Every time you ready up, you should know that there is a potential of being slugged, sometimes for the full 4 minute duration. With everyone running DS now, slugging has indeed become meta/necessary. If this is not something you can handle, DBD may not be for you.
There is a difference between using in game mechanics to better your odds of achieving your goals and cheating.
I literally said i get why people slug sometimes. Slugging for the 4k is a bit try hard for me, whoever gets the hatch first, wins. Whenever i play killer i only want the 4k very bad when the survivors misbehave in my opinion. But i still get why a killer would do it. I'm talking purely about the losers who only slug untill everyone is on the floor. Unbreakable only works once remember, it's in no way a direct counter to a slugging killer.
Slugging everyone does not make someone a "loser."
Slugging is a core part of the game's design and a viable way to win.
Slugging is necessary to win in many cases. Not sure if you're trolling or just salty. Both?
I can understand his reasoning though. Why is being on the hook perferable to being on the ground? Either way, your not doing anything.
It isn't. That's my point.
I know killers prefer an easy 4k instead of learning how to play without dirty, cheap "tactics". And i expected people to try to explain why it should be in the game ( so far i only hear it's because it's simply in the game so that's reason enough ) so yeah, no one convinced me why something stupid like slugging should be in the game. Please can someone just come with a good argument?