Ditch deep wounds from his power it never worked and never will because it's tied to a survivor perk, make a special effect specific to legion and work from there.
True, but so long as you aren't using it to chase someone, the stun won't matter too much.
Honestly i like the new changes but he still sucks
I think just a few more tweaks and he'll be "fair"
I apologise in advance but I haven't got the time to read the whole thread, I've read OP and the first few pages though.
As a killer I play mostly Legion and Hag, my Legion build was PWYF, Ruin, Monitor, Pop - as add-ons I usually used the Button + longer FF (the green one). I played just a couple of games with the new Legion, so that's very early to reach any conclusions, but I can point out some first impressions.
First of all, I tried to switch PWYF with thana, and instead of Button I chose the pin which gives the broken status effect.
The increased speed in FF is convenient with sprint bursters, but not that effective to chain hits if survivors split up. However, the quick vault is huge - there's no looping them while in FF, exactly how it should be. Thana + broken effect did their job, mostly by keeping survivors on edge, but considering the 4 seconds stun after FF is over I still prefer to do a basic attack if I know a survivor is most likely alone. Here the lack of PWYF is felt strongly, which makes me wonder if I should try to use the perk anyway.
The mending speed, as expected, is a nerf which shouldn't have been made: just change the add-ons if those are the problem, ffs!
The Deep Wound timer instead is something I don't really care about - considering Devs didn't want Nemesis to synergies at all with Legion, the change doesn't matter at all; survivors were already able to mend without any issue.
However, if they didn't change the mending time, the DW change could have been an interesting buff - survivors could have been more easily found after switching targets: either they would have run around (leaving scratch marks), or they would have had to be stuck in place mending. We're stuck with what we have though, so there's that.
I will probably try to switch again thana with PWYF and see how it goes - I won't get tokens nearly as fast but maybe I could try to even it out by smart hitting the Obsession (that is: always only one basic hit for them). We'll see.
Large part? You have numbers for this? Cause it sounds like some people think this is a buff, but we don't know that. Same with the number of people who think it is a nerf. Its some. You're making misleading statements.
The point about the community being ignored is in this thread. 6 pages of posts and no feedback?
Whether or not this was a buff or a nerf you’re right. No feedback at all. This is terrible.
There is an old saying that the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Deep Wounds were never meant to kill. They are just there to have survivors do before doing other objectives. Complaining about Deep Wounds debuff is like complaining about End Game Collapse because you thought it was more fun to bully the killer after all the gens are done.
Take the Ghostface pill. He's mildly okay.
They are a 12 second stall. That is almost nothing especially when the Legion goes off to find someone else.
okay. How would you feel if as killer if a survivor stuns you with a pallet you have to sit there and hold m1 for 20+ seconds. Killer mains just don't understand that the game is boring enough for survivors already (hence the need to be toxic or even bully killers). What everyone needs to understand is that the asymmetrical aspect of this game needs to be acknowledged at all times. While it might be "balanced" if survivors had to sit on a gen for 2+ mins to finish it, it wouldn't be enjoyable. This is a video game that people play for fun, like with most video games. Loading screens are long enough. Survivor games should not have 10+ mins of loading screens embedded in them. I like their approach to the new killer, rewarding fast-paced gameplay and taking risks. I feel like this is what they wanted to try with Legion and although they messed up badly, it's not the fault of a game mechanic but rather how Legion's design is in direct counter with what the game was designed to play as. You make a good point and I like your creativity
Who thought a survivor can stop bleeding if they run? Change the name to Survive by Daylight
I'm taking a break from this game, this has gotten me so depressed I can't even have fun playing Survivor or even the new Killer. I don't have faith in the devs, they give us cookie cutter responses and those responses just show they aren't listening. If they were listening then they would know that we feel they aren't paying attention and that their design choices are flawed, so flawed it is obvious someone on the team shouldn't be working in this field.
We have complained for almost a year that the 4 second stun is too long and that was not even considered to be a change.
We have complained for almost a year that the Pin add-ons need to be on hit and they give us this mess we didn't ask for.
They aren't listening and I'm done playing until they fix their [BAD WORD]. When Legion gets fixed I'll be back, not even a new chapter will bring me back because they always do something stupid with the perks and nerf them to being useless; Cruel Confinement for example.
I'll probably stalk the forums though because there are cool people on here that I enjoy conversing with :) Until I get banned for something stupid.
I am so sad to see this @UlvenDagoth but I completely understand and you have my utter support and respect.
Thank you so much for fighting for so long adding to the countless amazing ideas for legions changes. I truly hope you find a passion to continue your work but I understand the step back.
I just wanted to give you some support my stabby friend take some boops and I hope you find happiness soon my friend. Much respect!
Thank you for testing this for me.
I know right? They don't care.
I tried to point that out to them too.
That's funny, cause it doesnt even stop them from doing anything else now. Also, no, complaining about this and EGC are no where near the same thing.
You lost all credibility as soon as you said there was a "need" to be Toxic or bully Killers. There is NEVER A NEED TO BULLY ANYONE!
forgot to put quotes around need. Anything else you want to nitpick bud?
It defies all logic and sense.
Nope, cause you won't listen anyway.
Let me get this straight...you call me out for stereotyping but then go on to stereotype me as the type of person who won't listen to you. FYI, I'll listen to anyone as long as they have something insightful to say.
This is exactly how I feel about it. I've lost all faith in BHVR. Till they do something to bring that back, i'm not giving them a single cent.
Thank you so much. This means alot to me, prolly more than you would expect. I just can't right now. I really hope I can get up the give a darn to keep yelling at them to change Legion, but when it feels like they don't ever listen, why bother?
Okay cool. Then let's try and see if we can both get around this.
The Deep wound change made any and all stalling for Legion basically useless. They can run across map with no issue, work on a gen for a moment, then mend. Or they can just instantly start mending after being hit and even if the Legion stops and eats that stun, they can just run away with no penalty while Legion looks at there hands for 4 seconds. It would have been better to NOT lower mending times if this change was gonna be made, or revert the changes at least but no. We both have 8-12 seconds of "Stall" with RUNNING pausing the timer. Add to that Legion can't see Scratch Marks in FF or even blood, loses 50% of there power on a m1 hit, and lost all of there perks synergies with Feral Frenzy (Which removed EVEN MORE "STALL") and you have a Kilelr who's power is literally more punishing to use then not use.
Oh I see. I thought you meant the recent change flipped Legion on their head but now I see that it was more like the final nail in the coffin in a long series of unnecessary legion nerfs. I see why you would give up at this point, Legion has officially been put into the ground by the devs.
Exactly. Burned, buried, desecrated and forgotten.
Never be happy with something cause "It's better than nothing" or "At least it's something". This Video was a good example of that.