If this game got rid of or changed moris, ruin, stacking slowing perks/addons, this game would be in such a good place.
Nobody wants to play a 30 min game vs Freddy with Ruin, pop, dying light, sloppy with chains addons.
Guess what even Freddy's don't want to play forever Freddy, but when the survivors sole objectice is easy as hell you encourage slow the game down as much as you or get wrekt playtyles it's really that simple
So are you saying Freddie’s are forced to run forever Freddy or they will get destroyed because survivors win too easily?
I’d have to disagree since I can win against survivors with no addons. You don’t need forever Freddy to stand a chance lol.
I'm a Freddy main and I despise the Forever Freddy build.
I can still get around fine in Red Ranks if no one is bringing Object of Obsession.
I'll agree they have no idea what "fun" is they have a idea of "fun"
People seem to don't realise, that a gen can be done by two people with toolboxes and prove in 16 seconds.
Talk like a 5 min game is fun for killer.
You can't just make the game fun for one side.
If you do.
Then you need to make cpu killer because nobody want to play killer.
Right now the waiting time for survivor is way way way longer than killer.
Which mean that every ten player.
Only less than two player want to play killer right now.
Think about if you keep take the fun away from killer to survivor what would happen.
You only care about fun on survivor's side. Do you even know why killers run these things? It's the only way to have a chance at red ranks
Nobody wants to play a 5 minute game against SWF with DS, Adrenaline, DH, keys and toolboxes or even insta heals
Surely the game would be more fun for killers in the generators got completed within 3 minutes and there was nothing they could do about it.
You, OP, only care about the survivor-side of the game. As long as you're having fun, everything else doesn't matter.
I'm pretty sure the devs do know what fun is. They just want killers to have fun too.
Fun would be survivors only, then everyone could have "big" fun 👍
They know what is fun. They made Death Garden KEKW
You'll make killers miserable, and the only people who has fun is survivors
Enjoying those long survivors queues right now?
But please, continue with how killers get the world handed to them , and how the game will be in a better place If more things were "reworked" because we all know what that means.
See how fast queue times jump up even higher
Survivors: nerf this! rework this! this killer is xyz!
Also survivors: omg why is it so hard to find a killer for a lobby.
Nobody wants to play against swf, but here we are...
Just wake up against forever Freddy.
Moris and keys are just a hangover from the early days of the game when the devs were still figuring out wtf they were doing. Same with maps and some other benign stuff.
I'm sure they will be changed eventually, just like BNP and insta heals have been already.
You are the type of person i camp "for fun". Lol
"seem to DON'T realize"? I've witnessed a myriad of creative ways to split infinitives, but this takes the cake. smh
That's not exactly true, I want to play a 30min game against freddy. What I don't want is to play a 2 or 3 minutes game against Freddy!!!
EDIT: I don't want to play a 30min game against Freddy but I rather do that than to play a 2 or 3 minutes one!
Imagine making the game more unfun for Killers. As if Survivor queues aren't long enough as is.
Nobodysurvivor wants to play a 30 min game
No killer wants to play a 4 minute game either
Slow games are fun for killers. Freddys slow stack because 5 minute games aren't fun as killer.
Did the math, ran some testing and this BS people are bringing on Freddy is just that BS. I tested the highest possible Gen Speed (prove Thyself, Leader, Resilience, Toolbox) a survivor can achieve vs Freddy with the highest possible slowdown possible. The results were shocking as a survivor is able to achieve higher gen speed than Freddy is able to slowdown eg. Even with the slowdowns, the gen speed was in the yellow. None of you who read this post can even fathom my absolute rage as I saw this was true. People are complaining about Freddy who used up perk slots and add ons to achieve a slowdown that makes the game less punishing, when you can literally counter this so hard that your gen speed will be faster despite the slowdowns stacked on to you? Yeah. [BAD WORD] out of here with that BS. That Freddy used up resources to achieve a desired effect. Whatever build you brought did not counter this. So you will suffer for it. It's just that simple. You literally can't argue against this.
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I WANT YOU TO SHOW MEEEEEEEEEEEE
Lemme alone i bad english bruh
But survivors must get 5 gens all the time, if they don't killer OP.
See how this argument solves nothing.
I see you think it only matters about survivor fun. Because you gave nothing to help killers in recompense for taking all of that away from them. Gens pop too fast without those kinds of things.
No Killer wants to play a 2 minute game vs. gen rush squadron.
This one has always baffled me Tbh, I'm really unsure why more people don't do this.
If you wake up against him he has no slowdown at all, outside of the perks. In fact, I tend to wake up against good freddys anyway, as snares if used properly wreck even quite strong loops.
It is hard to balance as fun is subjective. I want to survive as a survivor and be a competent team member. I can die if I helped my team get some of us out and I got to play a little.
When I first played killer I wanted 4k every game. Until I switched to survivor and learned some of the tactics to do so sux, now I want to get my BBQ stacks. Keep survivors on the edge of their seats the whole game and maybe get some gg's at the end.
But when BM shows up in the game I can switch my mindset to "rushing", kills or gens that is.