Developers intensify the sound occlusion, made the chasemusic louder, made footsteps quieter. And with the recent sound "bugs" (which coincidently keep coming back) you get basekit Iron Will ontop of that. Stealth got buffed to a ridiculous level.
Let's just wait to them fix the sound bug and see how stealth will be garbage.
We arent balancing around fun now? Can you really say that after Legion changes and the upcoming Doctor changes?
Or you mean "we are only balancing around fun when its the Survivors' fun".
Doctor changes is more a QoL change for low ranks, which I dont agree with, but he's not destroyed and devs just hate legion at this point.
But still, what do nurse's main mean with "fun" cause fun is subjective for everyone..
I came here asking the Dev's if they would share some updated stats not to argue for or against buffs to nurse. But you have posted 10 of 33 comments please stop spamming this post I appreciate your stance on the nurse.
Im not spamming this.
If you know what spamming is:
Im debating with someone else which is arguing with me, which is the point of why this forum exist, everyone is able to give their POV and no one can stop that.
When all of the baby nurses quitted playing her why is the kill rate so low now?
Just try to learn her on red ranks, she's kinda weak without two specific addons (CD) and a godlike nurse player in control.
EDIT: Just saw there are survivors in this thread, that think pallets and windows are the only defenses against nurse. Please guys. Stop it.
"she's kinda weak without two specific addons"
just imagine that omg
Are you playing nurse on r1? No? Try it then.
Do you have any proof of this, or are you just talking out your butt?
Nurse is terrible with the cool down in a chase. You have two blinks and there's that. Also useless to move about the map since when you actually find someone you have to wait for the cool down before you can start the chase. I actually started enjoying the challenge of her basekit before the nerf but now... Useless
Maybe it dropped because of the people who were absuing Omega Blink can't do sh** with her now. I play Nurse and still dominate. I guess she is bad.
That has yet to be seen after her nerfs.
Obviously the latter, the other person that argues that nurse has high map pressure has no clue what she talks about either. Nurse has a little less map pressure than a 115% ms killer so imagine having the same map pressure as a bubba. Yet somehow some people have no clue how to play as nurse or against nurse.
Made up arguments by people who do not play the killer and dont play against it. Nurse is in the dumbster so unfun that every other killer feels better to play as.
Actually they balance around fun, just that it is balanced around survivor fun cause we cant have that they actually have to do anything regarding skill. That is why it is so easy to rank up as a survivor and why even red ranks are filled with potatoes who have no clue what to do. If you go against potatoes fine, go against good survivors and nurse suffers the same problems as all others.
One of the best in map pressure? In what dream world do you live in? She traverses the map slower than a 115%ms killer how is that close to being the best in map pressure?
I have this friendt that mains nurse, and it took him about 5 kill your friends to get the timings again
I have 3 friends that main nurse and played her for thousands of hours, that tried the rework and said she is still fine you just can't [BAD WORD] up a thousand times anymore. And also for you to talk like that you must have evidence about everything right?
It already has to me at least. I have friends on steam that used to main her and most streamers that can hit the blinks say she is fine. Hit your blinks
She is way too hard to use now.
I do not expec to invest extra hundred of hours to get to "acceptable" level again and I will get better results with silent bell wraith anyway.
With current sounds that are sometimes glitched to [BAD WORD] and you can't hear anyone ever you are actually guessing where survivor is and then you have dedicated lag and ghost hits so... bye bye nurse.
The proof is all over the forums that the nurse is under powered. The severe lack of whining from survivors complaining about nurse being op or unfair just shows that she is a pushover now.
When survivors are silent about a killer, it means they are not viable.
Well, I think they shouold still should balance the game for fun for both sides, we're playing a game to enjoy, not to get frustated.
And she has one of the best map pressure by far, cause being able to from gen to gen is the best.
Weird. I never would've guessed that trashing a killer would have sunk their killrate.
So you guys ignore the stats when killers have 75% kill rates but suddenly it means something when nurse has low kill rates.
Such hypocrites lol
My question: why not nerfing just them addons and keep her basekit then??
Where is that Extremely high reward exactly?
Spirit is way easier to use and win with and you don't have to "predict" survivors will run into you and you don't get a chase reset every time you miss.
Nurse used to be good becuase survivors used to group up a lot, play worse and she had these very powerful addons.
Now survivors mostly play smart, aren't easy to predict, run iron will(or don't make sounds at all due to bug) and push on gens as every time nurse misses as she loses 3-5 seconds just to get another try of using the power.
Only time I have seen nurse succeed was against survivors that hug and run in a straight line.
Just to clarify some things, coming from a red ranks nurse main:
Nurse is still the best killer in the game, if you are really good with her and use two cooldown addons. Why are the cooldown addons that important? They provide her with map pressure while not gutting her chase potential like range addons.
I've done much testing with her, but i've never found a build that felt fun to play. The cooldown is way too punishing for new nurse players and is just gutting her map pressure for nurse veterans.
No worries, i'll keep suffering with sally, i would never leave her. .(
Actually that is quite inaccurate. Everybody said look at the low stats for the nurse across all ranks, many people argued that uh uh red rank is looking fine.
What people didnt know back then is the fact that red rank stats meant have a red rank killer in the match and nothing else so you can play as red rank nurse vs green survivors for example that doesnt say all too much does it? I mean you even meet potatoes in red ranks imagine people who are unable to rank up, given how easy it is to do so as survivor.
Now what do you think the stats would look like if it only included red rank killers vs red rank survivors? Stats show again nurse at the bottom but hey all good isnt it?
Yeah you do? That is funny cause most nurse players tell you they have literally no fun to play nurse right now.
Lets play ormond, you as nurse against my swf and i show you what your map pressure is ok?
Nurse is still in the game? That’s weird, I haven’t seen her in a match in a long, long time
It still wouldn't mean much if it was red rank survivors vs red rank killers. Being in red ranks literally doesn't mean anything on the survivor side since it is so easy to pip. I've seen a rank 3 survivor self care against noed yesterday.
If the stats were somehow calculated with good killers and good survivors then it would actually mean something.
Nurse always had the lowest kill rates across all ranks as far as I know because her skill cap is the highest in the game and it's even higher now with her nerfs.