How about you guys stop whining and just get better without ruin good God. I dont ever use it and i main Wraith and Doctor in purple and red ranks respectively. The game is fun as killer for me without the use of it. Quit being dependent on it.
They don't ignore feedback.
It's extremely tiring to answer 90 salty threads all saying the same thing
Is that what AngryPug says? I can 4k without perks if I'm in single digits ranks.
I really quit this game, not because they destroy balancing.
But, because they didn't listen feedback and have strong self-confidence.
See you all in Monster Hunter World: Iceborne.
now I have more motivation to actually play solo survivor so im fine with the changes. if you get scared of a lobby you can still dodge it
I guess they like genrush and they want fewer people to play as killer
Where did they claim that? You have some source to read myself?
I'm still so pissed about the nurse butchering. Haven't played her anymore and everytime I verse Nurse I'm just making a complete joke about that poor killer choosing "the strongest killer in the game". I haven't versed a single nurse who got more than 2 kills. Absolute trash killer now.
Im genuinely confused what you mean. I've read the changes, the reasoning behind the changes, and the dev posts about how they like the changes. What else should I read?
They don't say it outright. It is in their actions
Pug was pretty happy about Ruin because he thinks Ruin is boring to face.
Not true. We're talking about players with literally thousands of hours in the game. Some main Survivor, some Killer. Hell we even had a veteran Doc main try new Doc. :)
How many players were those? Which bandwith of skill did they have? Because not everyone is a professional doc main for example and most players hardly agree about balance. Yet I see so many people unite behind the current opinion on this forum that I have to ask this. Its a nice attempt to let good players test this out, but I can't get rid of the feeling that these players represent a minority and not the most shared opinion across the playerbase and that is kinda odd without an explanation of those players. That certainly would help.
All streams I've seen today consisted of people saying Doc is better than he was before even with the bugs he currently has but yeah guys go off devs bad
dont we all say that even though its a lie
i want to know too
I know right. I even played against Tofu’s nurse and he only managed to kill 1 person.
she’s so annoying to play now and it really makes me sad since she used to be my main. It’s just not worth it to play her anymore; especially if you want to win. :’-(
Find me 3 serious dev responses to the feedback in all the new ruin threads. I'll wait. The only one I found says the devs like the change even though they know it will get negative feedback.
Can you also give us who are these players are? I know its not possible but it seems like therse players have less experience then us
If they release a statement saying they are happy with the changes and expect outrage for it, and then keep the changes, how is this not ignoring feedback. This was done with nurse, spirit, legion, and now ruin. Not once have k seem the devs scale back changes from the ptb into the actual game. Also, it's very hard to have faith in internal tests. I'm not accusing them if being dishonest, but there is a lack of transparency that is concerning.
You realize that Peanits just announced that they're going to lower the delay between using Shock Therapy and attacking? And for Legion, they made multiple changes to him between PTB and Live?
I don't like the changes to Ruin either (Specifically, I don't like that they didn't really address the issue of gen speeds), but we shouldn't spread a false narrative.
So you bring in experienced players to test changes aimed at new survivors.... The doctor changes are so not what's causing this outrage. I like you, I feel like you're at least trying to get the community to see your side, but the actions of the dev team speak way louder than any words you can say.
It's showing an extreme bias towards survivors. Everything about this patch is all about making it more fun for survivors at the expense of your killers. You can say it's not the case all day long, that you're committed to both sides, but your actions say otherwise. Killer can still be looped for days against competent survivors, the maps are still too big for 115% killers, the nerfs are all against killers, the bug fixes are all aimed at survivor bugs, and now both doc and ruin are being nerfed for survivor enjoyment.
If you can't step back and see that, you're either blind, lying, or stupid.
If the change is being made for inexperienced players are you not getting bad info by using very experienced players?
How is this change affecting the killers that 15+ rank players face.
Or was this intended to make the game easier for newer players being taken into high ranks with SWF?
Spirit was barely touched but ok
That's Almo for you...thinking that something is good/bad after a minute of testing.
Never mind the countless surv nerfs they have received over the least year.
lmao did at least 3 survivors spawn 16 meters in front of it?
Nurse, Oni, Legion, and Spirit all gutted. Freddy nerfed. Doctor nerfed, Ruin beaten, burned, disembowled, drawn and quartered, then fed to the sharks.
Balanced landing, slight nerf. Oh yeah, I can really feel the survivors pain.
Spirit was not gutted at all. Did you really only rely on beads or collision with her? Shes still broken and easy to 4k with without ruin or pop. I hope she gets nerfed so I dont feel ashamed of using her. Oni got his flick back and the ptb killers playing him liked him. Freddy gets more kills than even spirit now. So again. Wrong. Legion was totally broken and poorly designed. They had to gut him. Why would you allow a poor mechanic to continue to be used? Bias? I'm sure theyll rework him like they did freddy.
If you think BL is the only nerf survivors have gotten this year you clearly arent paying any attention at all. If you think spirits nerf was impactful at all you werent good with her to begin with. If you think leaving nurse to be god like tier forever was okay, you're clearly bias.
I stopped reading at the spirit because you're so laughably wrong. She's easy to lose in chases, play the game and try instead of clipping scott jund talking points