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  • I'll see if I can find it. It may be from a QA or Discord. I can certainly find people discussing it.
  • I wonder if they are including survivors DCing or deliberately killing themselves to derank?
  • I think those stats are being drawn from the Rift era, where every second game had either a killer DCing or 2-3 survivors DCing, as there was no penalty. Keep in mind that a lot of survivors do this (or just killing themselves on hook) routinely to …
    Toxcity is on a cycle StarLostによるコメント 10/18
  • Going to be working on the family car today, but I'll see if I can scratch it up tonight. Yes - what you are talking about is the old protection they had for a month or two to stop smurfing. Low ranked survivors have a protection where they will o…
  • You know why these stats look like this? I'll bet dollars to donuts it's because games where survivors and killers DC are being included. During the rift, while the DC penality was disabled, this was sort of commonplace. Hell, I would DC to dodge Ha…
  • 1) Reenable the protections killers had against SWF smurfcomps. 2) Survivors queuing together will have an increased matchmaking rating, proportional to the number of players in that group. 3) Killers receive a 15% BP bonus for every player grouped …
  • This...looks like an exploit. Much like the spots on the farm maps where you can crawl when downed that make you impossible to pick up.
  • No. Absolutely not. Maybe half of my games at my crappy rank has 1-2 red or high purple ranks queuing with a deranked account to crush lowbie killers. These groups are all insanely BM, always teabag and try to stall out the game as long as possible …
  • See, now you are just strawmanning. Nobody said they are 'unbeatable'. We are saying that they have a significant advantage with no offset. I'd compare it to a wallhack or similar.
    SWF is Fine StarLostによるコメント 10/18
  • I'll have to dig up the thread, but yes - I remember it clearly. And now, it depends on the lowest. Which is the problem.
  • That's not all that needs fixing with SWF, but it's a decent start. SWF provides significant advantages to a team with no trade-off. Either killers need to be extensively rebalanced with that in mind (which would be massively unfair to solo players)…
  • You haven't? It was a while back. If I recall (I'd have to hunt for that thread - it may even be a Discord discussion). I still have the one where the devs admitted they had quietly removed killer matchmaking protections somewhere - because it was m…
    SWF is Fine StarLostによるコメント 10/18
  • The people playing with their 'newbie' friends - who all had full meta perks and 300 hours minimum on their accounts if I recall. Dammit, I need to find that thread again.
    SWF is Fine StarLostによるコメント 10/18
  • See: and survivors complained sufficiently about this to get it removed. I haven't seen a single thread from a survivor about smurfcomps, nor do I expect to. It's all 'SWF is fine'. Do you see why people have an issue with SWF, now? And why they ar…
    SWF is Fine StarLostによるコメント 10/18
  • Survivors essentially expect to get a full 4 man escape every game. If they don't get this, they will complain. I've been yelled at for: Not allowing survivors to farm after a DC. Allowing survivors to farm after a DC. Not letting a survivor heal. B…
  • Which would mean playing perkless. The old protection ensured that three red ranked survivors couldn't queue with a deranked friend to endlessly crush and troll new killers - they would always face a killer of a similar rank to the higher ranked su…
    SWF is Fine StarLostによるコメント 10/18
  • Quite simple. SWF groups will (once again) face a killer at a minimum rank equal to the highest ranked survivor in the party. This immediately crushes the majority of SWF smurfcomps and means that if they want to smurf, they all have to derank. SWF…
    SWF is Fine StarLostによるコメント 10/18
  • Again - here's a bag of jelly beans. Most of them aren't poisoned. Still want one? Nobody is asking for you to be punished. All we are asking for is for things to be a bit more fair. Tell you what - if more survivors would make threads about how BHV…
    SWF is Fine StarLostによるコメント 10/18
  • Ideally? Sure. In reality? This would only work if survivors agreed to it too. It's very easy to tell killers 'oh don't worry, it's not a big deal that you got skunked by an SWF smurf group who refused to end the match, this is not a competitive gam…
    SWF is Fine StarLostによるコメント 10/18
  • Thing is - neither should killers. Right now, the dominant thought seems to be that killers should expect to give up having fun to ensure that survivors have more fun. The main issue, to my mind is that BHVR went out of their way to remove the prote…
    SWF is Fine StarLostによるコメント 10/18
  • Here's a bag of jelly beans. Not all of them are poisoned. Enjoy! SWF isn't the problem. It's that, unlike in other games, there is no offset to compensate for the increased coordination and information coms provides, nor is the game balanced around…
    SWF is Fine StarLostによるコメント 10/18
  • Why are killers camping or tunneling you? Like - what are you doing to make yourself a priority target? Are you teabagging them? Are you using a key? A tricked out toolbox? A blendette? Are you abusing survivor matchmaking protection to queue up aga…
  • Camping and tunneling are no more toxic than looping or body blocking. They are ways of playing the game that have contextual tactical value. And what is, in my opinion, making killers toxic is the insane prevalence of smurfcomps abusing survivor ma…
    killers being extra toxic? StarLostによるコメント 10/18
  • Not banned, no. But prevented from abusing survivor matchmaking protections to roflstomp and grief lowbie killers? Absolutely. If you want to queue with two high ranked mates, you should be facing a killer at their level. Not yours.
  • Yes. 'Looking into' to the extent that they removed killer matchmaking protections and anti-smurf measures without telling anyone. Does. Not. Compute.
  • Wait, how would anything I suggested be unfair? Like, gen speeds penalty could maybe be dialed down later, but how would fixing killer matchmaking and bringing back anti smurf protections be 'unfair'? Starting to wonder about you, to be honest...
  • What you are saying here is - SWF groups are actually looking for an unfair advantage, and will quit if it's removed? That sounds like a win/win situation to me.
  • I'd also like to see Spinechill and OoO not work against undetectable killers.
  • Shrug. I'll generally just leave you slugged in that case. The real annoyance is when survivors use it to crawl into spots where it's literally impossible to pick them up (Farm maps are annoying as hell in this regard).
  • Dodging obvious smurf groups in the lobby. I'll wait until that timer is almost red. You know what you did and why you deserve it. Chasing down, downing, hooking and then camping someone who teabags me. You wanted my attention - well, now you have i…